Don't follow the mind. Go to a Buddhist country, participate in the ceremonies, talk to a real Buddhist, a real monk, the oldest one you can find, you know, people who are not fake and will politely humor your quest for proof or disproof of “fake buddha quotes”. “Autobiography and Selected Letters”, p.68, Courier Corporation, Elizabeth Gilbert (2009). We all have monkey minds, Buddha said, with dozens of monkeys all clamoring for attention. Body is like a water bubble. I have better things to do than waste time on a fruitless debate. The always-connected culture isn't as much a contributor as Grace might think. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. This is very rare. Better yet, use more than one of these tips to ensure you see at least one zen quote every day. So the whole premise of this thread is absurd, because you can’t actually translate word for word ANYTHING you might think Buddha said. Some figures of speech are cross-linguistically common, verging upon linguistic universals; many languages use “monkey” or “ape” words to mean “mimic”, for instance, Italian scimmiottare “to mock; to mimic” < scimmia "monkey; ape", Japanese sarumane 猿真似 [lit. voice in your head. My ego is not involved. "chicken heart"] "heart-shaped; cordate". Distraction is the main problem for us all - what the Buddha called the monkey mind. I don’t need no stinking google books. Goofing off Helping Sitting quietly. You said “According to ‘google books’ “? Not an expert, didn’t claim to be, I’m not in the contest that you want me to be in. Mind is like a mad monkey.” – Sri Sathya Sai Baba “I am not nearly so interested in what monkey man was derived from as I am in what kind of monkey he is to become.” The languages? Your email address will not be published. quotes. There is so much misinformation and pure BS on the web that it boggles the mind. We all have monkey minds, Buddha said, with dozens of monkeys all clamoring for attention. Did I already speak to you? This is also directed at the website. Pali is considered the sacred language of Buddhism and pehaps most likely. It is permanent. I’ve been to Thailand 3 times, my best friend there is a former Buddhist nun, and I plan to move there as soon as I can get my ass out of this shallow Donald Trump / Jerry Springer zombie nation. Learn More{{/message}}, {{#message}}{{{message}}}{{/message}}{{^message}}It appears your submission was successful. Siddhārtha Gautama?) I know that whatever stresses are in my life or whatever worries I have or whatever monkey mind is happening for me, when I get off the mat, I'm going to be transformed. I have the f***ing books. Get used to it.” – Maxime Lagace. You wanna learn about Buddhism? man-taming trainer, Physician Great indeed: ‘Unsteady, likened to a monkey is the mind, extremely hard to check when not rid of lust.’”. Learn More{{/message}}. ????? Evolution is fundamentally creative, and when we align ourselves with the evolutionary movements of consciousness, the universe itself puts wind in our sails. Create a “zen scarf” with quotes written on a soft solid-color fabric. And you would have to know the ancient form and dialect of those languages. For example in Thailand Buddhism overlaps Hinduism, and figures of Shiva, Ganesh, and Buddha occupy the same shrines, and tribute, incense burning, and “merit” are made before each figure. Use an app like ThinkUp to remind you of your favorite quotes. Impossible. I am burdened with what the Buddhists call the monkey mind. I’m afraid that whether some “human relations expert” (or anyone else) has used the expression “monkey mind” isn’t remotely relevant! An idle mind is the devil's workshop Devising viciousness at the worktop Breeding ground for lust To them who are lost Eats the bread of laziness Drinks the wine of idleness Given to depraved tete- a- tete At the old serpent's beautiful gate Busybody in other men's matters Like a mad monkey, he chatters Easy tool in the hand of the ritualist In addition to Buddhist writings, including Chan or Zen, Consciousness-only, Pure Land, and Shingon, this “mind-monkey” psychological metaphor was adopted in Taoism, Neo-Confucianism, poetry, drama, and literature. Ha ha! I have been there, and joined a Thai woman, a former buddhist nun, for the ceremonies. Learn how your comment data is processed. I don’t care what anyone thinks or says, nor do I care about answers or comments directed at me. He has often said “Arise, awake and stop not until the goal is reached.” He had leant this immortal lesson from his spiritual guru, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahansa. Follow AzQuotes on Facebook, Twitter and Google+. My mind swings wildly through time, touching on dozens of ideas a minute, unharnessed and undisciplined. Letting go of that, it grabs another one. The monkey mind insists on being heard, and sometimes it takes a lot of self-control to shut it down. Sathya Sai Baba. Then there is wisdom, another whole ball of wax. The Mind is a Monkey - One day a man, let’s call him Raja, decided to start his journey within. What makes this absurd is that if you’re looking to confirm the specific exact quote “we all have monkey minds” or attribute ANY specific quote to Buddha himself, you have to translate from either of the two likely languages that he spoke, Pali or magadhi, two south asian/Indian languages. ~ Our BelOved Almighty ~ Please Take Care & Be Safe Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions. The EXACT title of the chapter, a page and a half, is “the drunken monkey’s reasons why not”. "Actor Patrick Fabian: The power of live music and being connected to emotions". In the same way, what’s called ‘mind,’ ‘intellect,’ or ‘consciousness’ by day and by night arises as one thing and ceases as another.”, Sutta Nipata 4.4 has “Having left a former (object) they attach themselves to another, dominated by craving they do not go beyond attachment. - Sathya Sai Baba When you catch yourself slipping into a pool of negativity, notice how it derives from nothing other than resistance to the current situation. So I think you’re all a bunch of drunken Monkeys. The Body Is Just A Water Bubble. I mean no disrespect just in case I sound annoyed. Beginners to meditation find that when they sit down to meditate their mind is akin to a mad monkey; no matter how hard we try, the power of the mind’s thoughts seem to make meditation most difficult. You can also subscribe without commenting. I almost hesitate to review this quote because it’s not in wide circulation, I prefer to deal with those quotes that are. OK, I did some initial research. HAW HAW HAW HAW!! Never believe that body is permanent. That is the principle of Atma. Follow the conscience. yeah, you guys too. I had the notion that readers would like to see some accuracy in this blog. Quantum thinking goes beyond the thoughts we're aware of; it includes unconscious processing, which doesn't just expand our boundaries, but can also free us from the suffering that conscious processing (sometimes known as 'the monkey mind') creates. The Indian saint Ramakrishna said that, in the beginning, the mind is like a “mad monkey, stung by a scorpion.” Practicing meditation every day, starting with ten minutes, and eventually thirty minutes (or more), you will begin to get glimpses of that state of still peace. The death of the mind is the birth of wisdom.” ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj I Am That. Monkey Mind Quotes Quotes tagged as "monkey-mind" Showing 1-22 of 22 “The ego is like a clever monkey, which can co-opt anything, even the most spiritual practices, so as to expand itself. The phrase “monkey mind” isn’t found in the suttas, to the best of my knowledge, although according to my Pali dictionary the term kapicitta — “having a monkey’s mind” (meaning capricious, or fickle) — is found in the Jatakas. Answer is: Oh, shit, (slapping my forehead) NOW I get it. You … For what it’s worth, and you may have already seen, I am posting these excerpts from wiki “mind monkey” for now, the footnotes are available to you and your readers. The parrot, the sloth, the mouse, the tiger, the bear, and the silent owl are all represented. What are you doing if you are "monkeying around"? Sathya Sai Baba Wise men don’t judge – they seek to understand. Letting go of that, it grabs another one. uses the second person plural here in itself is enough to expose the Dani Shapiro “Mind-monkey” occurs in two reversible four-character idioms with yima or iba 意馬 [lit. “The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make a heaven of Hell, a hell of Heaven.” ~ John Milton “You may die a hundred deaths without a break in the mental turmoil. I’d be interested to know Dan’s source about the Chinese origin of this saying, but the Buddha did indeed use the metaphor of the mind being like a monkey in several places, and with varying meanings. A tiny summary of the books’ topics? {{#message}}{{{message}}}{{/message}}{{^message}}Your submission failed. Mind is like a mad monkey. I wouldn’t go as far as saying that he never used “we,” but it’s certainly rare, and he seems only to have used “we” when suggesting what other people should think or say, as in “Thus, friends, you should train yourselves: ‘Being Dhamma-devotee monks, we will speak in praise of jhana monks.’”, He used phrases like “All tremble at violence; all fear death” when referring to some widespread condition, rather than “we.” I know of at least one place when he used “you and I.”. Or bullshit/monkey shit, same shit, different day. Prove/disprove quotes? : http://zennist.typepad.com/zenfiles/2015/01/the-monkey-mind.html ? Note that much of the following summarizes Carr (1993). There is a mistake in the text of this quote. If his fears (your fears) are slowly reasoned with, when your mind is calm through meditative techniques, it turns out that the terrible consequences of not being enough are actually not that terrible. Body is like a water bubble. Of COURSE he never said “we all have monkey minds” because ENGLISH didn’t exist back then. 80. The “Monkey King” Sun Wukong in the Journey to the West personifies the mind-monkey. “Mind-monkey” 心猿 is an exemplary animal metaphor. In Dhammapada verse 334, he said: “The craving of one given to heedless living grows like a creeper. I admit as much, but I know a bit, and I know where and to whom to go for my reliable info, mostly my devout Buddhist friends in Thailand, cross referenced by as many reliable websites as I can. You have to paraphrase. Well., wasting my time is right, this is a club for like minded sanctimonious pseudo intellectuals who are here to argue ad infinitum , demonstrate their superiority, and little else, denying legitimacy to anyone outside of this cute little clique. Body is like a water bubble. It doesn't need a new toy. They reject and seize, like a monkey letting go of a branch to take hold of another.”, And in Therigatha 19, Talaputa quotes the Buddha: “Said He who speaks the best, Best among mankind, I have found so many references to the “monkey mind” or “mind monkey” that I must conclude that either you are too lazy to thoroughly research this, or you are cherry picking from only that which supports your website’s conclusions. There are infinite debates over Christ’s exact words. Some troublemaker like me might pop up and deflate the whole thing with a bit of common sense. Body is like a water bubble, mind is like a mad monkey. Of course not. Never believe that body is permanent. “Like in the zoo, you will always find lots of monkeys but very few lions.” —Nabil N. Jamal “An old monkey never makes a pretty face.” —Francois Rabelais “Smile like a monkey with a new banana.” —Unknown “The monkey is an organized sarcasm upon the human race.” —Henry Ward Beecher The server responded with {{status_text}} (code {{status_code}}). When people are rude to you, they reveal who they are, not who you are.”, The Slow Path to Happiness | Scripturient, http://wisdomquarterly.blogspot.com/2014/07/monkey-mind-in-meditation.html, http://zennist.typepad.com/zenfiles/2015/01/the-monkey-mind.html, http://sdhammika.blogspot.com/2012/09/buddhist-monkey-buisness.html. Given a daily routine, it first gets the hang of it, then it gets bored and starts flinging feces. Improve yourself, find your inspiration, share with friends, H.L. Carry on and have fun in your arguments, pursuit of enlightenment(? Body is like a water bubble. Question #5. Paraphrasing the concept at the heart of the question, you’re all a bunch of drunken monkeys flinging shit. But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man's mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. The Mind Is Like A Mad Monkey. quote. but I’m sure it said as much in so many words, it was the whole point of the chapter, to convey the idea of the drunken monkey, the illogic. Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage. else’s, into the Buddha’s mouth: Monkey mind, I read, is a Chinese coinage. Mind is like a mad monkey. May you find great value in these inspirational Monkey Quotes from my large datebase of inspiring quotes and sayings. Besides, maintaining positive journals like gratitude journals, quotes journals, etc. The mind is a monkey, hopping around from thought to thought, image to image. It Is Permanent. But what do I know? As we look for ourselves, we see that it is like a circus or a zoo in there. http://wisdomquarterly.blogspot.com/2014/07/monkey-mind-in-meditation.html ? “thought-/will-horse”], most frequently used in Chinese xinyuanyima 心猿意馬 and Japanese ibashin’en 意馬心猿. Body is like a water bubble. Forgive me if I seek to inform. You can’t effectively prove or disprove a particular grammatical version of any phrase in those languages and dialects. In protest, they refuse to work at peak primate efficiency.” ― Thomm Quackenbush, Holidays with Bigfoot HAW HAW HAW HAW!!! You appear to be under the impression it’s about something else. Instead of you being in control of your thinking, the mental commentary takes over. Follow The Conscience. It appears that you are the one who is fake with regard to this topic. Letting go of it, it grabs another branch. “heart-/mind-monkey”], is a Buddhist term meaning “unsettled; restless; capricious; whimsical; fanciful; inconstant; confused; indecisive; uncontrollable”. Gallagher had written: Buddha described the human mind as being filled with drunken monkeys, jumping around, screeching, chattering, carrying on endlessly. Monkey Quotes Inspirational Quotes about Monkey. Is there anything in the Pali scriptures that can be accurately translated as “We all have monkey minds.” No, there isn’t. Please contact the developer of this form processor to improve this message. End of conversation. Buddha described the human mind as being filled with drunken monkeys, jumping around, screeching, chattering, carrying on endlessly. Don't follow the body. Have you gone here? Finish this monkey quote. I recommend learning how to come into the presence of stillness and vastness. Mind is like a mad monkey. You are, after all, what you think. My mind swings wildly through time, touching on dozens of ideas a minute, unharnessed and undisciplined. Learn any form of meditation. I have gone to many temples with those friends. But the topic interests me, and if this particular quote does take off we’ll have its origin documented here. Interview with Maranda Pleasant, www.marandapleasantmedia.com. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, Greg. Here’s one from a blogger who puts a thought, her own or someone Of COURSE he never said “we all have monkey minds” because ENGLISH didn’t exist back then. Nothing is permanent. Of course in asking the question I posed, what we’re actually asking is, “Did Voltaire say anything that could be translated as ‘I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. 406 Weimojie suoshuo jing 維摩詰所說經 was Kumarajiva's groundbreaking CE Chinese translation of the Vimalakirti Sutra.It introduced "mind-monkey" in the simile xin ru yuanhou 心如猨猴 "heart/mind like a monkey/ape" (with yuan 猿's variant Chinese character 猨). Dudbridge 1970:168). In a way, fasting is like the "calming of the monkey mind" effected by the rosary prayer: both are means of stilling the effervescence of relatively superficial preoccupations. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. "Since the mind of one difficult to convert is like an ape, govern his mind by using certain methods and it can then be broken in" (tr. I’m sorry you wasted so much time, Greg. Being familiar with the topic of the drunken monkey, this caught my eye while I was refreshing myself on the topic, as it has been a longstanding joke between me and my hindu doctor. "(Sometimes) you will come face to face with the sudden and shocking realization that you are completely crazy. There are references to connections with Taoism and neo confusianism: Mind monkey or monkey mind, from Chinese xinyuan and Sino-Japanese shin’en 心猿 [lit. Did Voltaire say “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Well, no, because he spoke French! The point is that this whole topic and website are absurd, explained further down. That comes from seeking, the quiet mind, objective awareness, harmony, experience, reflection. As I said in another post, you can TRY to follow a phrase to a modern originator, but then you might not know if the path really ends there. I don’t think you’ve done the best job of researching this. This “precept” is much older than 2012, I think you should amend your text. By Buddha himself? "Never believe that body is permanent. But Zen Mama steps over the line by turning this into a direct quotation. And nobody knows for sure what language he spoke, good luck with that, but very likely Pali, the sacred language of Buddhism or Magadhi.